Vintage at Southbank – the non-event

Posted on: Monday, August 1, 2011

excellent vintage stalls

I’m back from running tours about the 1951 Festival of Britain at this year’s Vintage at Southbank Festival – here’s my review of the event.

First of all, I really enjoyed Vintage at Goodwood last year, sure there were things I thought could have been improved on but for a first-time Festival they’d pulled it off: decent line-up of bands, excellent decor, plenty of interesting fringe events.

Bizarrely, this year, the Festival seems to have taken a step back, and instead of improving on what had been a successful inaugural show, delivered, well, not much at all.

Chap Olympiad

The Good
Just as last year, the shopping at the vintage mall, which was free for anyone to access, was excellent. With dozens of well-stocked stalls and very friendly dealers who were mostly selling at excellent prices, this really was a vintage shopping haven with an excellent mix of eras and anything from homeware to clothing and accessories on sale.

I also – again just as last year  – really enjoyed the daily Chap Olympiad, which brought some much needed sharp tailoring, authenticity and a dry sense of humour to the Festival. Really, without the chaps I don’t know what I would have done with myself, as sadly, there wasn’t much else going on.

Inside the Festival Hall

The lovely Margaret from Penny Dreadful Vintage who co-created the Festival Tours with me

The Bad
Wayne Hemmingway’s festival concept is essentially based on a main stage/line-up surrounded by a set of mini clubs/areas for each decade, which run a daily programme of DJ sets and dance classes. This worked very well last year, where each club had been carefully designed to give it an era-authentic look and feel, and the DJs sets were mixed up with band performances.

This year no amount of cardboard, bunting or disco balls could disguise the fact you were essentially in a cordoned off corner of the sveltering Festival Hall. There was at no point the feeling you had entered a 70s disco or 30s tea room – a poor effort that contributed to the complete lack of atmosphere. No festival feeling here!

Moi in 60s vintage

Amazing Gemma of Bake Do & Mend doing one of our tours

The Vintage Style Doctor in his 70s finery

The Ugly
While there were some interesting events going on – craft workshops, fashion shows, film screenings, swing dancing lessons – for the majority of the time the entire Festival was a few DJs playing. There were no bands during the day, none of the wealth of activities as last year. Quite frankly I didn’t quite see the attraction of sitting in a tiny room listening to records at say 3pm. Great for a while but not for three days if that’s pretty much all there is. Each evening featured an orchestra-lead revue (you needed to buy an extra ticket to see this), surely interesting to see but by no means worthy to be the highlight of a festival.

All in all Vintage at Southbank felt like an interesting fringe set-up to a festival that never happened. I was bored. A lot. As someone running a free event there I had a free ticket so I didn’t pay the £60 per day it would have cost to get in, but I would have been gutted if I had. I don’t even want to get into what I thought of the organisation and attitude towards the people volunteering their time.

The 1951 Festival of Britain was about inspiring people and showcasing the best of a nation. Vintage at Southbank was a three-day, half-hearted non-event that best be forgotten.


 

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  • Sarah

    I’m so disappointed as this is what everyone said last year too! We had a meeting with the Southbank (in my role at Qype) about working with them on the Vintage festival and I sent over a huge email full of ideas – and they took 3 weeks to reply and say: ‘we’ll get back to you on these’. Of course, they never did. Disorganisation on that scale is just sad – and, again, this isn’t the first time I’ve heard bad things about the attitude of venue staff….

  • Lena

    Hi Sarah,
    Yeah it’s incredibly disappointing! I actually did enjoy last year, otherwise I’d have never decided to get involved. Big mistake. The organisation of this Festival was ridiculous, the kind of time delay you mention doesn’t surprise me at all! Just an example: we had absolutely none of the sort of promotion for our tours during the Festival we had asked for, not even a sign that said they’d be happening – cue people getting lost and not finding our meeting place. My list of complaints could go on and on but without going into further details we were meant to feel totally unappreciated and weren’t even allowed to watch the evening revue. To me the Southbank Centre has lost all credibility as a serious organisation…

  • Penny Dreadful Vintage

    As you well know after sharing in your boredom the entire weekend, I couldn’t agree more x

  • Missy Vintage

    I was tempted to go until I read what I will politely refer to as an exchange (this was months again, I believe it was on the organisers official facebook page) Questions were posed about location and price and the admin (admins) were really rather snappy with their replies I thought.

    This really put me off going, so it wasn’t just the price (which I think was a lot) So your mention of volunteers not being treated as one would expect did not suprise me.I also saw your tweet about not being able to get into an evening event.
    Had I have known there was a free area then I would probably have tried to make it. Good to hear it was mostly reasonably priced though. Very interesting to read a review from a volunteers perspective.

  • Sarah B

    I went yesterday and I did enjoy myself but I would have been disappointed if I’d paid full price for a ticket and I was lucky in that I was able to get in for free on the Sunday. I spent most of my time in the soul casino dancing to northern soul and everyone in there was lovely but if northern soul isn’t your thing then there wasn’t a great deal to do and it was bloody hot in there! I went in some of the other rooms and they were pretty empty, with only a handful of people dancing or listening and I was a bit confused as to what was going on. I did try to find your tour but sadly was unable to!

  • Retro Chick

    I went last year, and enjoyed it and I also thought maybe it was something they could have built on a lot.

    I decided not to go this year as funds are a bit tight and the London location made finding somewhere to stay / transport costs very high, quite apart from the ticket costs!

    From what I hear people say it seems they don’t really take input from others very well, assuming they know best, but are quite happy to try and milk those same people for free promotion. Such a shame.

  • diane

    I went up to London with a friend – assuming there would be plenty of stalls selling things outside the venue – and prepared to spend money – when we found out it would cost £60 just to get in and see if there was anything worth buying … well … we just went to Covent Garden and spent money there instead. It was an insane price!

    • the vintage room

      There was a huge amount of stalls outside in the Hungerford car park but No directions or info was provided. No banners to let you know, you just had to stumble across it I think. I has a stall there – it was very frustrating !
      No comparison to Goodwood last year.

  • Sally

    I went to this on the Sunday too, and paid to get in. What an absolute disappointment. It was like an elaborate practical joke being played on all the people stupid enough to have bought tickets.

    • Bella

      I couldn’t agree more. It was a massive rip-off for all who paid full price, and the team behind it are refusing to acknowledge that they have severely hacked off a lot of people who had also been to the one last year at Goodwood. The money I handed over months ago would have covered us for the whole three days based on how much they dropped the prices – way less than half price in many places. It leaves a really bad taste in the mouth.

  • layladylay

    I couldn’t agree more. I went along on Saturday with a reduced-price ticket (glad I didn’t shell out for a full-price one) and from what I could see, the best things to do, ie the Vintage Village and the terrace bar, were happening outside the ticketed area. I didn’t see your tours. I kept wandering round and round the boiling hot RFH looking for all the great stuff we could do but didn’t find a lot, thought we were missing something! The workshops looked good but there was some awful karaoke going on and some horrible and some (vintage 2010) MCing drifting in from a podium on the terrace. We ended up escaping to the roof garden of the Queen Elizabeth Hall (nothing to do with the festival) for a quiet drink in the sun. There is always lots to do for free on the Southbank I would have been gutted if I’d paid £60 (£75 if you add evening entertainment) essentially to see a few retro-themed companies plying their wares and buy some overpriced drinks! Wish I’d just gone down without a ticket, I’m sure people were just wandering in off the terrace. Grrr, thanks for your review though, it summed up how I felt about it too.

  • LandGirl1980

    Another corker from Hemmingway. Claiming “vintage” and pissing off the vintage community? Bravo.

    I am pleased I parted with no cash for this event. I would have been royally hacked off if I had paid full price only to see the ticket prices slashed. And the same for stall holders. Badly organised tripe. The shopping was good – by way of a lot all being in one place – but it was the company that I kept that made my day a treat.

  • Lori Smith

    I completely agree. What a waste of everyone’s time and money! I was so disappointed at having spent money to attend this year as there really was nothing to justify the ticket price. I didn’t see your tours and there were no signs for anything… not even the Chap Olympiad :-(

  • Lena

    My friend Margaret who co-created the tours with me wrote this great review on her experience of volunteering for Vintage 2011 – http://pennydreadfulvintage.blogspot.com/2011/08/vintage-at-southbank-volunteers.html
    I can verify everything she says- I’m gutted I wasted my time on both Wayne Hemmingway and the Southbank Centre,

  • Hannah Cruse

    I went last year and thoroughly enjoyed myself as there was so much to see and do musically and fashion wise, but after an awful experience with their press team I decided that I would definitely not be giving them any of my money – plus the Hotrod Hayride was on the same weekend! I feared this would happen as you simply can’t hold a festival in that sort of area! A fayre yes, but not a festival. I’ll be interested to see if it’s held next year at all!

  • Alison Wonderstuff101

    A complete let down, and I’m one of the stupid ones who pai for 3 full priced tickets. Been looking forward to the festival for months. As soon as I walked into venue, felt disappointed. I tried to have fun, but no amount of vodka could help. There didn’t seem like there ws anything to do. I couldn’t find the stands. I had loads of cash to spend money on lots of vintage goodies, but found nothing to buy. It seems everything was happening somewhere else and not in the area in which I paid. Totally gutted. Feel that I missed an opportunity to buy some really fab things.

  • Anniki

    Was also really disappointed. No work had gone into making the venue look inspiring, just a few crappy posters here and there. Everything was for sale and had a price tag attached. I took my boyfriend and a friend and the boyfriend left after half an hour (it would have been right up his street if there’d actually been stuff going on). We walked round and round looking for entertainment. No information was provided on what was happening. If I want to listen to records in a hot room, then I’ll just stay at home and do it without having to pay 30 quid!

  • james

    Vintage at southbank was a massive disappointment. The best parts were outside and a couple of days beforehand it was announced they were free to enter which meant they were all swamped by tourists, surely part of the attraction was to be surrounded by likeminded people with a love for vintage. Being inside the festival hall was fragmented, walking between the different clubs was like walking through the departure lounge of an airport. I feel like I was misled into buying a £60 ticket, and im still seething about the fact that other people who booked late were able to pick up tickets for £20. I dont have much money and I had looked forward to this for months. Up until now I had a lot of respect for the Hemingways but now I feel like they are laughing at me and counting their money. Even worse my friends who were running the Oxfam shop spent a lot more money exhibiting than they usually would because of all the promises made to them by the festival organisers. They had a really bad time of it, shoved in a poor spot in the market, and lord knows Oxfam needs the money more than the Hemingways do.

    • Lena

      ‘Departure Lounge of an airport’ really nails it on the head, that’s exactly what it was like!

      I saw the Oxfam stall (and actually bought a jacket off them), and thought it was terrible that they had been put in the furthest corner outside and the dingiest, darkest of spots inside the RFH when last year they had a prime location on the vintage highstreet.

  • richard lloyd

    I spent £240 taking my wife, daughter and son in law on the Friday. The free village was great but as usual nowhere to sit down and have a coffee unless you like alcoholic ginger beer. The Festival Hall was hot, unbelievably noisy, aggrieved stall holders because there was no signage and little footfall, overpriced drinks and unthemed dance areas. We left after 2 hours with pounding headaches.
    If they are going to run this event again I would want a discounted ticket for going this year. We went to all three days last year and thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • Jennifer Purdon

    Yes I too was there on Sunday with my husband. We went with friends whose company would cheer any dull day..THANK GOD!!!!
    The good bits.. The amazing BOBMSHELLETTES, and to be fair most of the performers at the TORCH CLUB. Plus one or two other little bits I enjoyed at the time but not memorable enough to list. Having looked forward to the fashion shows, what a let down they were. D & P Lowe started over 30 mins late whilst everyone baked under the hot lights.That after finding a seat which was an undignified, disorganised, everyone for himself scrum. The British Airways fashion show was presented by a gentleman with the voice of a bored passer by. Even some of the models wearing the BA uniforms had not been dressed properly..which did little for the company’s image. (Their stewards do not wear loafers and no socks.) With all Mr Hemingway’s knowledge of vintage why oh why were we not treated to a taste of 40s/50s/60s/70s outfits and music to go with it?. It could have been a superb standard fashion show each day.
    The “events” were really difficult to locate and most were non events when we eventually found them. Who needs a bunch of turntables to put records on? I can do that for free at home. In fact the whole organisation of the event seemed utterly shambolic.With most people walking in and out of areas looking completely bewildered. On venturing out to the vintage shops we were surprised to find that anyone and his dog could access them from the street. This meant people like us who wanted to browse and buy were mostly unable to as the tents were packed with students and tourists.This resulted in stifling hot tents so crammed we couldn’t get in to see things.The shops needed to be inside!!!!!!! All that empty interior space and they were outside.??? Believe me those store holders we chatted to were very very unhappy about the whole sorry affair.
    Thank goodness for the lovely” Pop Up tea room” it was most welcome. No scones left but we can forgive them that as the cup cakes were delicious.
    We paid extra and watched the Revue which was quite good. 10cc still the best! Adam Ant (groan) will be almost passable when he can be bothered to learn the words of the.songs!!Anthony strong was really watchable.The music from the backing orchestra drowned out a lot of the remainder…which was fine by me.
    Well,we enjoyed getting dressed up in our 50s finery, though we were surprised so few did make the effort. I did not go to the last event at Goodwood.However I cannot help but wonder,knowing how Lord March is a stickler for organisation,if that’s why Mr Hemmingway was not welcomed back this year. Or maybe if the organisation load was spread between others with more experience of these events a more polished show would result.
    The whole set up had the soulless feel of a students union bash in a busy airport lounge. We constantly felt we would find what we were looking for around the next corner…we didn’t.( Sadly we knew nothing of your tours either,which sounded fun )
    It was too expensive MR H AND SOUTH BANK.(and the drinks from the bar!!!!!) and we will not visit the event again.

    • Lena

      “The soulless feel of a students union bash in a busy airport lounge” – couldn’t have said it better myself!

  • perdita

    I couldn’t agree more! Especially the records room… pointless and rather empty! I loved the charity shop DJ but not much else, was particularly miffed having paid full price. Still it was nice to see you and enjoy the sunshine.

  • anon

    my wife paid £60 for a ticket and my daughter £30 (for a student concession) I went up with them on the sunday but didn’t go in as my two sons were with me. We went around the vintage market, food stalls, art busses and street stalls along the river bank. My wife said it was a huge letdown inside, in fact the outside was better by a mile and more organized. I understand that there were sharp comments towards any criticism of the event from the organizers. If that’s the case, then as an arranger of many vintage fairs and festivals all over the UK, I will advise the contacts I have not to go anywhere near this event if they hold one next year. Ripping off customers via extortionate ticket prices and bad organization, does not a happy experience make. Stick that in your retro pipe Wayne!

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